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Brian Roden's avatar

First, an editorial note: Tammy Faye Messner's previous surname was Bakker, not Baker. (I'm A/G, and remember the PTL scandal quite well).

The multiple magnetic centers within the Christian nationalist universe reminds me of the debates between Calvinists and non-Calvinists. A non-Calvinist can point out some issue with Calvinist doctrine, and the Calvinist will push back, saying the person is misrepresenting Calvinism (even if the opponent was citing Calvin himself). There are enough varieties that one can plausibly deny certain specific allegations, claiming, "That's not my branch/brand of Calvinism."

The differences you point out among the various streams of Christian nationalism also provide that kind of plausible deniability (especially for the independent Charismatic segment, which doesn't fit the "patriarchal" and "white" boxes, as you point out). And being able to deny one or more aspects of what is usually associated with the "package" of Christian nationalism allows them to sneak the other aspects past the guard, because they were able to pronounce "Shibboleth" correctly.

Bob Abbey's avatar

Thank you for providing a much-needed road map to some very complex terrain. It helps me make better sense of the trends I've noticed recently in my own family who appear to be circling the fringes of charismatic spirituality.

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