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Michelle Van Loon's avatar

Excellent analysis. I write about Third Wave/Vineyard/IHOP/Bickle/emergence of the NAR in my upcoming book for Eerdmans (Downsizing: Letting Go of Evangelicalism’s Nonessentials). One data point that jumped out at me as I reviewed some of the major streams within the broader Evangelical movement was how many places C. Peter Wagner had a major influence: in the early days of the Vineyard, Church Growth Movement, and the NAR. Though I was always aware of his presence in each of those spheres, somehow seeing his fingerprints appearing in some many places sort of took me aback.

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Brent Sirvio's avatar

Every IHOP/Bickle post I see automatically gets the Mike Knott treatment, because Knott was all over the Kansas City Prophets and SoCal Vineyard's slide toward their false teachings in 1992, when they still had some clout.

But Knott's music sounded too worldly, and his bands played too loud in churches, and we just can't have that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcWjB0jWwnE

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